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EconomicsRelating to the global economy, the system of production and management of material wealth, economic growth, aspects of social, political, and economic theory. Who is making all the money?
Anyone who wants anything from
us, they said, can have it if we in return can have other things we
need. And let us add that we shall not buy anything on credit!
Because we won't pay interest. We believe that money can't multiply
through interest, only through the creation of new things of value.
So anyone who wants to can come and deal with us on the barter system!
Most people still believe that banks loan out money. Because most people are honest they make honest assumptions. Most of us make assumptions in regard to the banking system. A lot of these assumptions have been 'encouraged' by the underhanded jew overlords.
People think that banks use customers deposits for bank loans. This isn't true. They take your 'money' and create more 'money'. It is called fractional reserve banking. They don't lend customer's money to other customers. That is probably why they pay a little tiny bit of interest. To fool you. When you get a bank loan the bank 'creates' the money. It is crazy!
A video that explains the current financial system is the video, "Money As Debt". If you haven't already seen the video it breaks down the current system quite well.
In my opinion the barter system is the only way. You need to create things of value. One of the reasons that all the economies of the world are tanking is because their economies are so service heavy. An economy needs to produce products.
The jew control of money needs to be addressed. The barter system is in my opinion the alternative. They control the gold and the silver. So when they start talking about going back to gold or silver forget it! Hitler didn't need gold or silver and neither do we.
every now and again i'll ferment about 5 gallons or more of some of my home made wine. i've been thinking of growing some tobacco in a very small plot.
i can hear many folk here saying that i have some very nasty vices. if that is so well then i am in some mighty good company
as i was sharpening my lawn mower blade today i thought that we here must have 1000's of different kinds of services we are talented at. i've been here quite a while and i cant remember a thread here where we share our many skills.
wow, where to start, well, right out of high school i worked as a block and cement mason. add much plumbing and electrical knowlege to that and all i need is the supplies.
what a great idea for a direction this thread could take
I brew wines year around and beer in the summer and fall.
the "sins" of the world will always be needed & able trades. i dont mean sin, but i remember when we learned these things taxed under "sin-taxes" growing up. these things are alcohol & tobacco.
these are skills necessary for life, in my opinion, because we neevr know when we will have to rely on what we can cultivate or create of our own ambitions & works.
the barter system is a romantic idea, but it will NOT pay the bills any time soon. so unless you can send your own satellite into space to start your own cellular company, the phone wont stay on via bartering.
none the less, have plenty of resources stocked up in your fallout shelter ready to barter away. because when you need the shelter, thats when youll need the bartering.
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quoting David Slayer... "Most people still believe that banks loan out money. Because most people are honest they make honest assumptions. Most of us make assumptions in regard to the banking system. A lot of these assumptions have been 'encouraged' by the underhanded jew overlords."
this truth has been express here many times. i would never consider our honesty as a weakness but the times the vile jew has taken advantage of this characteristic is impossible to count. it is our trusting nature that allows those criminals to destroy nations time and again
Say you are a 'loyal' customers of McDonald's and you have some ideas and suggestions that you feel would improve the McDonald's experience you could address them a couple of different ways.
- you could request/suggest to management that they should develop a McBuffalo burger
- you could petition other customers with the intention of being able to demonstrate to management that there is a demand for a McBuffalo burger
- you could locate a source for buffalo meat and try to convince them it is economically feasible/advantageous
- you could as a last resort protest and demonstrate/picket outside the local McDonald's
Pretty ridiculous! In my opinion it is the same when you vote. Whether you are voting for president or mayor or governor or whatever. They make an offer. If you vote you accept their offer. They are offering 'yes' men. Cheese balls, corn dogs and ham sandwiches.
The same goes for the FDA, the CDC, the Fed, the ATF.....these are private corporations making offers. They offer and most of us accept.
The way I see it is a new form of accounting is in order. Local community based accounting. Family and Clan based accounting.
It is pretty sad when one cannot even hold a garage sale anymore, but it is coming.
" Thinking of having a yard sale this weekend? Before you do, be sure to consult CSPC Publication #254 [PDF].
This handy 28-pager from the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) reminds the American people that, thanks to the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (which I have blogged about here and here), the government is totally in charge of your yard sale:
This handbook will help sellers of used products identify types of potentially hazardous products that could harm children or others. CPSC’s laws and regulations apply to anyone who sells or distributes consumer products. This includes thrift stores, consignment stores, charities, and individuals holding yard sales and flea markets.
Selling old kids books, anything with metal, paint, or plastic that a kid might use, old clothes or shoes with metal components that a kid might wear? You know, any of the stuff people routinely sell at yard sales? Technically, you could be on the hook for thousands of dollars worth of fines. Obviously, it's unlikely the CPSA goons are going to bust up your yard sale. But putting out a detailed booklet that reserves the right to do so is hardly encouraging about where the implementation of this legislation is heading.
(Also, am I reading too much into the stock photos art here, or does it look like that baby already has a pretty serious case of whatever the folks at the CPSC are trying to prevent? Creepy.)
And read a big fat article on this by yours truly in the print issue of Reason that will be hitting newstands any minute now. "
My ex used to hold garage sales several times a year, surprisingly she made a decent bit of cash and cleared our house up of things we weren't going to use again or had no need for. I remember hearing the news that the feds were going to shut down garage sales as they cannot tax the items sold, for one- should have heard the ladies' reaction when I told them about that! Of course anything that the system cannot control must become illegal as the parasites want their hooks in everything.
I just found this while looking for links for this post :
" Richard Zambito, vice president of the Parklawn Civic Association in Alexandria, Va., has become the neighborhood’s unofficial garage and yard sale inspector.
In the last few years, Zambito has seen sales go from occasional friendly and benign events that brought the community together to extreme and prolific selling juggernauts.
“Two weeks ago, I drove by a home and they were having an auto sale, 20 cars parked on the lawn,” he explained, adding that some residents are now holding weekly sales. “And I went by another home and saw the yard full of appliances, including vacuum cleaners, washing machines and driers.”
Zambito thinks the sales have become a nuisance, creating traffic and litter problems. He’s on a mission to get county officials to curb them, and he’s even been taking photos of the sales and confronting residents who hold them.
“Last time I took photos they chased me down the road,” he said about residents who were unhappy he’s trying to curtail their roadside retailing.
In South Greensburg, Pa., a borough of Pittsburgh, town council president Clentin Martin also wants to put the kibosh on lawn and driveway bazaars, but he found out that messing with garage sales could be the new third rail of politics.
He just introduced an ordinance that would limit the number of garage sales residents can have every year to four and would charge $5 for each sale. For that, he said, he’s been called a communist. “I’ve gotten more heat on this than anything I’ve ever done,” he said.
Towns from Pittsburgh to Dallas are moving to curb so-called extreme garage sales and many residents are balking.
A sacred American ritual is coming under fire. Tough economic conditions have led to a rise in such home-based vendors who see the process as a way to make a few extra bucks, not just clean out the basement. Cities and towns, which don’t get tax revenues from the sales and have to deal with the traffic problem and sanitation issues related to the driveway trade, are fighting back by imposing fees and asking residents to get permits, many of which limit the sales to only a handful a year.
Today, there are about 45,000 garage sales held every weekend across the U.S., according to TagSellIt.com, and there’s no sign residents will be easing up on the home marketplaces on their own.
“The middle class appears to be shrinking while the lower-classes are growing, and members of the middle class seem to be engaging in thrift behaviors as an adaptive strategy under conditions of downward mobility,” said Todd Goodsell, assistant professor in the department of sociology at Brigham Young University, who has studied local thrift economies.
Indeed, advertisements for garage sales can be seen dotting communities all across the country, especially as the temperatures start to warm up; and ads on online classified sites are prolific. In recent years, garage sale ads on Craigslist have been on the rise, said Susan Mactavish Best, a spokeswoman for the company. She would not provide specifics.
Some municipalities in New York are seeing some locations holding garage sales every weekend, said Steve Silverberg, an attorney in Tarrytown, N.Y., who concentrates on municipal land use and zoning.
Many of these residents, he added, are essentially operating a business from their homes, and many towns don’t allow that in residential areas. In response, local government officials are putting zoning ordinances in place with limitations on the number of sales each home can have per year.
“There are a lot of issues that lead to this. All these cars pulling up, people all over the place, and people who live near don’t particularly care for it,” he explained. “A municipality is allowed to control local zoning.”
Dallas’ city council decided to take control of the burgeoning yard retailers.
Last year, the council decided in a close vote to limit the number of yard sales residents could hold and also require that residents get a permit and pay $15 for each sale.
And the city ordinance has restrictions on the number and placement of yard sale signs residents can put up in the neighborhood: "There is a limit of two garage sales at a premises during any 12 month period and each sale may not exceed more than three consecutive calendar days in length. Only one sign is allowed upon the lot where the sale is taking place. Signs placed on medians, public property or utility poles are illegal."
“It wasn’t about making revenue for the city more than to get something under control that was increasingly growing out of control,” said Dallas council member Dwaine Caraway. “People throughout neighborhoods and communities -- some people, not all -- were taking advantage of it. They’d roll out stuff and roll it back in every weekend. A garage sale to me is you got an old pair of shoes, or an old set of golf clubs or dishes. But this stuff was in boxes. Some with tags on them.”
Caraway admitted he’s gotten some flak from the community for supporting the fee and the council is now considering knocking off $5 from the fee. He wants to keep restrictions on residents, however, especially those who had “opened up weekly businesses and were not paying any taxes either.”
But he added, “no one is going to be thrown in jail. It’s to figure out who are the abusers and the good people. Good people will appreciate it in the long run.”
Aaron LaPedis, author of “The Garage Sale Millionaire”, who has held about 50 garage sales in his lifetime, isn’t so sure.
“We should be allowed as Americans to have a garage sales, make a little money, without being permitted and taxed everywhere we go,” he said. “A normal person would probably have two garage sales a year.”
Where residents go overboard and run businesses from their homes, he said, government officials should crack down, but not on average yard sale enthusiasts.
Such sales are great for communities and for the environment, he pointed out.
“Having a garage sale is very green because it recycles items,” he said. “People are now going to start throwing away stuff.” Life Inc. - Towns outlawing extreme garage sales
They will slowly take away every little freedom we have until one day we awake in a country so foreign to the one we grew-up in, we will think we were in a foreign land. Oh, wait- that has already happened....
"Heading down the highway, sign has three inverted nines..."
When asked to justify the fine, a county official noted the size of the operation. "Kids selling lemonade making five, ten dollars is a little different than making hundreds," he said. Meanwhile, those who paid the county nearly $300 were selling individual parking spots on their lawns for up to $60.
To the parents of the children, it doesn't seem fair. "The message to kids is: there's no American dream," Carrie Marriott, mother of some of the children, told 9News Now.
Edward Kellogg, in his book "A New Monetary System" (1861), which is free on the internet, has proven that "However fertile a country may be, interest even at two percent per annum will inevitably oppress the producers." He teaches us that any interest rate exceeding 1.2% per annum is USURIOUS.
Now I noticed that on my current telephone bill that an 11% late charge fee is being enforced. And I have heard of some people paying 35% and up interest on their monthly credit card debt. Stop the pain, yahweh.
So how about we the people nationalize the Federal Reserve and issue 0%
interest tranches of one trillion dollars yearly to reindustrialize the U.S., and also repair and upgrade the U.S. infrastructure. No money whatsoever is to be given to banks, insurance companies, the financial trading pirates, or casinos, etc. Read Tarpley's "Surviving the Cataclysm".
Also a 1.2% tax on all financial trades is mandatory. Some estimates say Wall Street and other assorted financial trading criminal enterprises, trade over $400 trillion yearly (flash trading, computer generated trading etc.)
A revenue of about $4.8 trillion would be realized in one year. Now if all the 130 million housing units were to be valued at a average $100,000/unit; then it would take less three years to pay in full all of America's housing.
Just think about the housing /rentier scam. And how many of these units have been paid in full several times over. Hmmm, yes Virginia, the government really does care about its sheeple.
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Skunk over at Judicial-Inc.org pointed me in the direction of Huey Long. He was assassinated in 1935 by a jew. Supposedly he had a good chance of beating Roosevelt....Long fought the Standard Oil Company and vowed to take on the Federal Reserve. His slogan was: "Every Man A King". At one point his political movement was signing up 20 000 people a day.