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Reaching OutAttempt to communicate with others concerning our plight.
So, Scott, you may ask, what is your plan? My plan is this:
To familiarize myself and become proficient in math and science and to be proficient in at least one major programming language in the span of 2 years time.
Your plan is realistic and achievable as long as you take your goals seriously and put in several hours a day towards your goals.
We have something in common here: the poor performance in high school, the awakening to the importance and value of education, and the attempt to change course and improve our minds through higher learning.
They put me in remedial math in high school, but they didn't get it. I didn't need remedial math; I needed to care about learning. At that time in my life, I cared about entertainment and addictive pleasures, not about learning. Now I see these attitudes are encouraged in our youth intentionally by design.
Once I started pushing back on my "wants" and focusing on my needs, I became stronger, both mentally and emotionally. Now I view pushing back on "wants" (resisting the desire for entertainment and addictive pleasures) just as important for the strengthening of one's mind as pushing back on weights is for the strengthening of one's body.
Once I set my mind on education, I taught myself algebra before I took my first college class. Later on, I taught myself how to do computer programming in C, C++, Visual Basic and assembly. I have also taught myself Windows programming using the Window API.
I know you can do this, and I encourage and support your efforts 100%!
I appreciate the support. Any advice or books/text/resources that you can recommend that personally helped you on your way is appreciated. Thanks for the kind words!
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When I started to learn programming on my own, one of the things I did was get a college catalog, look through the list of courses for computer science majors and buy the books for the classes I would have taken to learn what I wanted to know. Then you can work through the books in the sequence you would have if you had taken the classes themselves.
You can use this strategy for any field you want to learn more about.
Of course, I also went to book stores and bought additional books to help myself learn along the way. If you know people who have actually taken formal classes and are willing to offer guidance, they can be a big help and save you a lot of time. There are programming strategies you need to learn about that are big time savers, like programming in tiers or layers and keeping them separate to make the code both portable and reusable.
Learning to program to maximize the reusability of your code is probably the most important part, and most programming books that I've seen (especially the introductory ones) don't teach this aspect of programming.
Compare the difference:
Scenario one: You have one massive code file with everything in it. The program works fine. You want to make a similar program. You copy the code file, and then spend the next two months trying to modify the code to get it to work for the second program.
Scenario two: You have many layers (tiers) and separate components to your program organized into many separate code files. The interface is strictly separate from the functionality of the program, and you might have even made this separate from function calls to the operating system (to make it more portable between different operating systems). You copy the relevant code files and within minutes you are already working on the functionality of your next program.
As you learn, I recommend starting to create and save code "templates" or simple example files that you can quickly copy and use as starting points for your own projects later on. As you learn about calling functions written in separate files, you can also start creating separate components to your programs that will quickly let you add functionality to a new program by simply copying one or more files.
When I started to learn programming on my own, one of the things I did was get a college catalog, look through the list of courses for computer science majors and buy the books for the classes I would have taken to learn what I wanted to know. Then you can work through the books in the sequence you would have if you had taken the classes themselves.
You can use this strategy for any field you want to learn more about.
Of course, I also went to book stores and bought additional books to help myself learn along the way. If you know people who have actually taken formal classes and are willing to offer guidance, they can be a big help and save you a lot of time. There are programming strategies you need to learn about that are big time savers, like programming in tiers or layers and keeping them separate to make the code both portable and reusable.
Learning to program to maximize the reusability of your code is probably the most important part, and most programming books that I've seen (especially the introductory ones) don't teach this aspect of programming.
I have already noticed that the self-teaching PHP books do that, just throwing you the bare-bone minimum of information and code, which always leaves me going, "Ok, so how do I USE the code for my own means?"
That's a great idea about books from college courses, I'm going to research that presently.
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Picked up Beginning PHP 5 and MySQL 5 from Novice to Professional by W. Jason Gilmore. It's about 1,000 pages strong.. it's got to have something decent in it, lol.
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I have been looking to study geology after I finish my history degree. My cousin is a geologist of some sorts and he says I can teach it to myself a bit so I don't have to take as many courses. Perhaps I can keep the HAARP asses from setting off any more volcanoes.
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Hello there! Just read the thread and was thinking of my own path of higher learning at high school and the university.
I am studying mathematics since 8 years now, but my awakening to the jewish problem was within this timespan, it took me 3 years to deprogramm fully and to become aware to the system of control. I finished my pre diploma in mathematics (its not a bachelor is even less than a bachelor) and had computer science as well. I learned to program in 5 different languages, Java, Haskell, Opal, Kash and Mathlab, of course this learning was in the exercises of the classes, you dont really learn how to build programs for the market and such, but you have incredible insight on how programming languages work.
Well after 8 years of not only studying but finding out about the jew and my personal awakeing my psychiatrist told me that the pressure of Math is simply too high, and to be honest, its NOT FUN!!! Mathematics at the university is worse than what you can imagine, its so intertwined so abstract that it is very difficult to understand or get the information from the script or book, its like encrypted and it is a battle to understand it all. So basically I am thinking of quitting studying and starting an education to become a Informatc Programmer, this is a education at a firm, where you learn PHP, Perl C++ and everything you need to become a full fledged programmer. I am still doubting and still have depressions, but it would be better for me and my psyche to work within a firm background and going to classes, the Education or Learning Scheme takes 3 years and you gain work experience on the way and you make money at the same time not much but some, like 700 dollars a month.
I dont know, its difficult, Math was never fun, it was really harsh and now giving it up is difficult for me, but it feels great that I no longer have to study Differential Equations 2 as an example, everytime I look into it I become depressive again and think wtf!!!! why do I have to learn that "Hit. And to be honest I dont have to, I do am scared of my future, because 8 years of being into the program of study and then simply quitting it and starting something different is simply difficult.
At the same time I hate the educational system that the jew created, its not fun learning at the university its hard hard work and always thinking that you might not make it and so on!!! Learning and working should be fun!!! really!!!
Anyhow many greetings,
Alex
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I second everything Alex said...University is really boring and you have to memorise large amounts of trivial information that you'll never really need. Going to university doesn't mean you'll become more intelligent, there are a lot of not very smart people at universities, you'll be suprised at the kind of people who manage to get in there...
True intelligence is being able to work out problems by thinking outside the box and being creative and inventive; not memorising large amounts of useless information so that you can pass an exam but that you will never use again...
I have been at university for three years and it's torture, boring lectures, rude professors that don't help you,strange markings from certain tutors e.t.c....And to imagine that you are paying a lot of money to subject yourself through this...People have been brainwashed to think that going to university is something special, when in fact it's just a way for the government to pretend that it's doing something for the sheeple (while in reality keeping them out of the workforce since there aren't any jobs anymore. There are loads of people with degress that remain jobless for a long time or end up working in the job that has nothing to do with the degree they have. So what was the point? If there are 5,000jobs in a city and there are 10,000 graduates for example, then half of these people regardless of what degree they have will remain jobless...It's just simple common sense...In the past most people used to make their living doing trade type jobs electrician,plumber,mechanic,security e.t.c. but now all these jobs are mostly ignored and the people are told "go to university"...Even though loads of people never get anywhere simply because there are not enough jobs for everyone...
Besides you also get all kinds of additional brainwashing in university e.g. in my university a virology professor was telling us how important it is to get our vaccines so they can "protect" us...Do you know what "scientists" call it when people get vaccinated- "HERD IMMUNITY", no joke...It's like we are cattle (the herd) that need to be controlled and experimented upon...
Knowledge on several different topics and about life is good,but memorising large amounts of useless information that you'll never use while at the same time being brainwashed is simply utter bullshit...Fuck formal education, be KNOWLEDGABLE...Learn foreign languages, learn about the planet, about nature and georgrpahy,about what is going on to your world around you; learn some trades since they will help you get a job and also make you more self-sufficient since you'll be able to fix things in your house by yourself...
I second everything Alex said...University is really boring and you have to memorise large amounts of trivial information that you'll never really need. Going to university doesn't mean you'll become more intelligent, there are a lot of not very smart people at universities, you'll be suprised at the kind of people who manage to get in there...
True intelligence is being able to work out problems by thinking outside the box and being creative and inventive; not memorising large amounts of useless information so that you can pass an exam but that you will never use again...
I have been at university for three years and it's torture, boring lectures, rude professors that don't help you,strange markings from certain tutors e.t.c....And to imagine that you are paying a lot of money to subject yourself through this...People have been brainwashed to think that going to university is something special, when in fact it's just a way for the government to pretend that it's doing something for the sheeple (while in reality keeping them out of the workforce since there aren't any jobs anymore. There are loads of people with degress that remain jobless for a long time or end up working in the job that has nothing to do with the degree they have. So what was the point? If there are 5,000jobs in a city and there are 10,000 graduates for example, then half of these people regardless of what degree they have will remain jobless...It's just simple common sense...In the past most people used to make their living doing trade type jobs electrician,plumber,mechanic,security e.t.c. but now all these jobs are mostly ignored and the people are told "go to university"...Even though loads of people never get anywhere simply because there are not enough jobs for everyone...
Besides you also get all kinds of additional brainwashing in university e.g. in my university a virology professor was telling us how important it is to get our vaccines so they can "protect" us...Do you know what "scientists" call it when people get vaccinated- "HERD IMMUNITY", no joke...It's like we are cattle (the herd) that need to be controlled and experimented upon...
Knowledge on several different topics and about life is good,but memorising large amounts of useless information that you'll never use while at the same time being brainwashed is simply utter bullshit...Fuck formal education, be KNOWLEDGABLE...Learn foreign languages, learn about the planet, about nature and georgrpahy,about what is going on to your world around you; learn some trades since they will help you get a job and also make you more self-sufficient since you'll be able to fix things in your house by yourself...
You are so Right Alexander!!!! Its TRASH! University is simply that, you can prove to learn large ammounts of useless information or at least stuff that you will never use again in your life. I keep talking to other people who finished their diploma and they told me that they never use what they learned at university or only 3 percent or less.
This system is all about indokatrination, making you feel less and dumb if you cant understand what they tell you at the university. The profs dont help you, they all await that you do everything by yourself, then there is competition by other students who also dont help you, and everybody is for himself. I yearn for a university where you can learn trully how things are done and not memorising large ammounts of info that is so booooring that actually kills your mind.
I learned so much online!!! about the hollow earth theory, the imperial germans, the vedic universe, Spirit Beings, Occultic knowledge, I absorbed all of this material, of course Revisionist History as well, true history is so interesting!!! I keeps you fascinated it holds you, that is the same with true sciences and true engineering, where you can seek and learn and be creative. I love to build cars, or design them, design ufos or spaceships based on anti gravitics, free research like Nikola Tesla did. LEARN by SEEKING, based on your natural instinct of being curious you learn a lot! Man is by himself wanting to know more, and he wants to find out its the natural curiosity in Man, but we have learned that learning is a torture BOOORING beyond extremes listening to lectures at the university and then needing to learn it all, is simply BULLSHIT!!! Scott Roberts could lecture at every university with his knowledge so could I!! but so long these jews are in power and dictate what is taught at the universities people like us have no chance. Would be great to talk to an audience with all my knowledge in my mind!
btw I started working at the supermarket just as a working student 40 hours per week and it is really intensive never thought that working as a cashier would be so intensive and tiring!
Many greetings!
Alex
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Thanks for your participation, guys. I knew that I wasn't the only one in this particular situation. My progress has been slow and fulfilling. Aside from having to combat the expected problems of trying to find work, I have to battle through the Russian language as well... and just so you're all aware, Russian business practice works on the principal of money. I could very well go right now to a company and throw 10,000 rubles on their desk and they'd probably hire me - I'm just illustrating the point that it has absolutely nothing to do with your skills or credentials. This is even more apparent here due to the complete social and economical upheaval that continues to happen. (Some of you may remember the Russian ruble crashed in 1998.)
I spend a lot of my time right now with my son - because he is honestly what makes me feel happy. My wife, of course, but to hold my progeny in my hands makes me feel very happy. I've fell into some degree of good fortune, and happened to make a friend of a guy who works in Luxoft (Alex - you probably are familiar with this company) and the human resources department is extremely interested in hiring me for conversation spoken English. This would essentially "solve" all monetary issues that I'm currently having and would be a HUGE and much needed relief in that regard.
As far as PHP, my friend and I are arranging sessions where I will bring my laptop to his house and he'll walk me through real-world coding jobs and examples that he had to do. These books just don't cut it at all, guys. The same bland crap and examples over and over. As Alex said in the video, and in my own experience, greenhorns out of university might have the theoretical education, but I'd take the guy who's been doing it for 20 years every single time. My uncle is a fantastic example in this respect - been working since he was 14 in concrete construction. started his own business, excellent draftsmen and craftsman and has a unique creativity to solve problems, the exact type of traits a university will never be able to teach you.
I've also noticed days like you, Alex, where my woman almost has to punch me in the face just so I get out of bed and do something.
The typical response to all of these words from somebody is going to be, "Stop bitchin' and make it happen". Well, excuse me for not being a materialistic cunt that only finds value in how big my house or how fast my car is. I just want a job that provides for my family and son and future children, haha, you know? It's just unreal.
As for the cashier work, Alex, I never treat cashiers like crap, because my first job was as a cashier at a gas station during the night shift, and I was also surprised at just how much responsibility and stress that I had with having to keep track of people that came in, money, giving correct change, watching the gas pumps, restocking shelves, cleaning and then closing the gas station and depositing the money at the bank. Some people can be real assholes, too.
I also wanted to point out that after I graduated high school and started working, I felt like Odin himself, because I had a job and was making real good money for my age in concrete construction work.
But, ugh...yeah... I guess that's all I have for now.
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Can't edit - I wanted to say "slow and not fulfilling".
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Its nice to know that others have the same problems as well, I thought that I was alone in this field, lol at 29 years of age and still no real occupation, well I have a high school diploma and a pre diploma in Math, but it is still not enough to apply for those jobs, I dont have a bachelor saldy. But I am really thinking of doing a education as a Fach Informatiker, this is a formal trainee program, at then end of the 3 years you are a Fach Informatiker and are a trained programmer.
I agree with you Scott that I would rather take someone who has work experience in his or her field but Germany is all about what you have, well diplomas and stuff, after a while in a certain company you cannot go higher or make a career without that diploma, a friend of mine had this problem, he made great work at a manufacturing facility became heasdman of his abteilung but then could not rize any further because he did not have a diploma, sadly, he was part of research division of semi conductors and silicon waffers, he was great at it, but they told him that he could never go any higher without a diploma, hmmm... sadly again. Germany is very strikt when it comes down to credentials, its very difficult to find a job without that little paper, but I know a good friend of mine, a woman, that found a job through contacts, she is now working as a programmer at an internet start up firm here in Berlin, she did not finish her studies, pretty much as I. So its possible its only very difficult.
Thx for your interesting feedback Scott! Its always nice to know that you are not alone. btw, I only work as a working student making 300 euros per month, all the rest I get from my parents, but being financially dependant is not all that, had severe guilt feeling from this, but I liberated myself from it as well, my parents want to help me to become what I want to become and should not feel guilty about taking their money.
HAILS!
Alex
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